Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
This is the optional forum header for the Suggestion Box.
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2

TOPIC: New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 3 weeks ago #13747

  • wbishop
  • wbishop's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 5
  • Thank you received: 2
  • Karma: 1
I just received my Pro-Pack II Upgrade Kit & Wicked Edge Low Angle Adapter. Now I would like to obtain/build longer arms.

Does anyone know what material & diameter is used for the Pro Pack II arms? As suggested in other posts, I think 4 inch longer arms would be about right.

I found a post by PhilipPasteur giving the following info on new arms:

www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3699/=n1ngy9

Is what I boutght for the rods...
Stainless Steel (Type 416) Precision Ground, 1/4" Diameter.



Also, what adhesive tape is used to attach new stones to the plastic paddles/handles.

Thanks for the info.

BB
Last Edit: 11 months 3 weeks ago by wbishop. Reason: I found some posted info
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 3 weeks ago #13756

  • FredHermann
  • FredHermann's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 207
  • Thank you received: 41
  • Karma: 18
I am not positive, but I think you have the right rods.
Personally, I want some that are about 2 feet each so I can do swords. Might be a PITA to use, but its the easy option to try. I wish I could thread them myself, but that's yet another tool I need to buy if I go this route.

As to tape, there was discussion on stones falling off and the tape a while back, I think in this forum folder. I have to hit work, but if you don't find anything, I'll try digging too.

I do know there has been ongoing research on tape, and Clay has tried many types looking for the right tape for the right stone.
“On one otherwise normal Tuesday evening I had the chance to live the American dream. I was able to throw my incompetent jack*ss of a boss from a fourteenth-story window.”

Owen Pitt – Monster Hunter International
The administrator has disabled public write access.
The following user(s) said Thank You: wbishop

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 3 weeks ago #13759

  • mark76
  • mark76's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 1226
  • Thank you received: 379
  • Karma: 86
wbishop wrote:
Also, what adhesive tape is used to attach new stones to the plastic paddles/handles.

It's a 3M tape. If you phone Wicked Edge and ask them nicely, they can probably provide you with some.
The administrator has disabled public write access.
The following user(s) said Thank You: wbishop

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13788

  • wbishop
  • wbishop's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 5
  • Thank you received: 2
  • Karma: 1
Thank Fred and Mark.

I have ordered some steel rods,some heavy duty joint ends, and a bag of replacement screws for the jaw vice from McMaster Carr.

I found this very interesting video on the 3m tape.



I ordered some of the tape from ebay. I will let everyone know how it ends up.

I will have plenty of the vice screws left over. Let me know if anybody would like a couple of them (just pay postage)

Bill
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13792

  • FredHermann
  • FredHermann's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 207
  • Thank you received: 41
  • Karma: 18
Great video and PM sent.
“On one otherwise normal Tuesday evening I had the chance to live the American dream. I was able to throw my incompetent jack*ss of a boss from a fourteenth-story window.”

Owen Pitt – Monster Hunter International
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13797

  • cbwx34
  • cbwx34's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 1260
  • Thank you received: 413
  • Karma: 92
wbishop wrote:
I will have plenty of the vice screws left over.

Just curious....what vice screws (size) did you order?

I saw that same video on TV the other day... looks like good tape! Keep us posted.
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13798

  • wickededge
  • wickededge's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 1777
  • Thank you received: 638
  • Karma: 91
We use 3M 4932 VHB tape for mounting diamond plates to the handles and it's pretty bombproof, so if you're mounting aluminum or steel backed stones, that tape is awesome. We've been struggling to find the right adhesive for mounting the ceramics. We've tried a few that our local distributor recommended but they haven't worked as well as needed. The ceramics are hydrophilic, meaning they love water and absorb it. Once the stones absorb enough water, it interrupts the bond between the tape and the stone. We had the 3M guys out last week and went through all our products and applications. They've got some new tapes and an adhesive promoter that they're sending out to us to try. The adhesive promoter seals the surface of the stone, giving the tape a surface to which it can establish a super strong bond. I'll report back once we've tested the new products.
--Clay Allison
The administrator has disabled public write access.
The following user(s) said Thank You: DARRELLALLEN

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13799

  • R.JeffreyCoates
  • R.JeffreyCoates's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Senior Boarder
  • Posts: 57
  • Thank you received: 22
  • Karma: 9
:woohoo: The 3M video about the tape was AMAZING.
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13800

  • R.JeffreyCoates
  • R.JeffreyCoates's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Senior Boarder
  • Posts: 57
  • Thank you received: 22
  • Karma: 9
I'm not an engineer but it would seem that to prevent the water from migrating through the stone you would need to seal all sides, even the side being used to sharpen. Two initial questions:

1. would the sealant change the property of the stone

2. if not #1 above, would it stand up to the abrading with the stone?

I used to use an old epoxy that would fit almost everything: MARINE TEX. It would cure under water, hot or cold. oil proof too. I have seen it used to "glue' a cracked engine block together - through oil residue. then sanded and drilled and tapped. It's good stuff.

If you are old like me you might remember seeing the shelf demo in your old hardware store . A soda bottle glued to wood, a golf ball glued to the top of the bottle and a hinge glued to the bottle.

I bet a little bit of that would hold the stones to the paddles.
The administrator has disabled public write access.

New Longer Arms for Pro PackII & Low Angle Adapter 11 months 2 weeks ago #13807

  • wbishop
  • wbishop's Avatar
  • OFFLINE
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 5
  • Thank you received: 2
  • Karma: 1
Thank you for all the comments. Curtis - I ordered the 3/4" vise screws. I have found you can always make them shorter with a mill file.

I will take pictures of my new setup latter this week.

Bill
The administrator has disabled public write access.
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2
Time to create page: 0.140 seconds