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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4611

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Howdy :)

Just a couple of questions:
(1) Are these images from your new metallographic microscope?
These are from the new scope. The 100x objective still isn't working, so I'm limited to 800x.
(2) What is the scale of the images (if you know)?
What do you mean by scale? Are you talking about microns/pixel or something else? The camera is 10 MP.
(3) Are these photos taken as black-and-white?
These are taken in color.

So far, it's a really fun study to do. I'm working on a developing a little jig that will allow me to hold the blade in exactly the same place on the stage so I don't have to do so much fiddling for every picture.
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4615

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Hi Clay,

By "scale" I just mean a length-scale. For example, what is the length across the width of the image? Or something like a little line in the image with a measure of how long it is (something like 0.01mm, or 10 microns, etc.). Maybe you could take an image of your linear stage micrometer at the same magnification?

I'm kind of curious how big the scratches are.
Sincerely,
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4621

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No problem, I can do this.
AnthonyYan wrote:
Hi Clay,

By "scale" I just mean a length-scale. For example, what is the length across the width of the image? Or something like a little line in the image with a measure of how long it is (something like 0.01mm, or 10 microns, etc.). Maybe you could take an image of your linear stage micrometer at the same magnification?

I'm kind of curious how big the scratches are.
Sincerely,
--Lagrangian
--Clay Allison
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4641

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Clay,
Just curious, what is the problem with the 100X objective? I have no experience with the kind of microscope that you have, but have spent lots of time with various lab microscopes. Usually changing an objective is relatively easy...

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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4643

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I can't tell what's wrong with it except that I can't get it to focus. I've sent it back once and the new or repaired one they sent back is the same. Their tech is looking into it now. Hopefully I'll have an answer today.
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Clay,
Just curious, what is the problem with the 100X objective? I have no experience with the kind of microscope that you have, but have spent lots of time with various lab microscopes. Usually changing an objective is relatively easy...

Phil
--Clay Allison
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 11 months ago #4649

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I hope you do get a GOOD answer. It would drive me slightly nuts to have something like that microscope and not be able to use it to the max extent of its capabilities (especially considering the price!!!).
Heck, I am impatient to see what it does... and I didn't even pay for it
:)

Good luck with it!
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 5 months ago #8780

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Clay, I hope you can find an ideal number of degrees to back off when moving to stropping with split bovine. I love how fast chromium oxide on split bovine can polish out all scratch marks, but it is so easy to round the edge. Once you work the paste or spray into the split bovine, those little fingers just polish away.
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 5 months ago #8784

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Hi,
What kind of chromium oxide are you using?
I have a bunch of it and they all seem to have considerably different actual grit levels. It seems that some, as in from HA is rated at 0.5 microns nominal. I have some that is no name stuff that I have read is closer to 6 microns and contains more aluminum oxide than CrO... Typically the 0.5 micron CrO wouldn't be a great scratch remover. Just wondering what you are using that does such a great job for you.

I know that you addressed Clay directly, but let me take a swing at this.

Most people say that 1 to 2 degrees more acute (lower) is a good place to start trying for stropping. I tend to use about a degree less for horse leather...and whisper light strokes. BTW, this is in general, I have never used CrO on WEPS paddles.

If you use more pressure, maybe try 1.5 or 2 degrees lower. I think there is no "ideal"... "it depends" (there is that equivocation again :) ) on the materials that you use and your technique. Do some experimenting and see what works for you. I don't think that Clay nor anyone else can determine that for you. The best you will get is some suggestions on where to start trying things.

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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 5 months ago #8785

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I use 1 degree. I think it depends entirely on your pressure. if you go very, very light strokes the maybe the same angle would work.

With the first strop I can tell in about 5 - 10 strokes how the angle is working. The polish is good enough to see if I am hitting alof the bevel.
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Re: Ascending Stone Progression at 800x 1 year 5 months ago #8793

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WolfsLair wrote:
Clay, I hope you can find an ideal number of degrees to back off when moving to stropping with split bovine. I love how fast chromium oxide on split bovine can polish out all scratch marks, but it is so easy to round the edge. Once you work the paste or spray into the split bovine, those little fingers just polish away.

If you're talking about losing the "bite" of an edge, one thing you can try, is to add it back in. Clay has posted this somewhere (that I can't find right now), but basically, after stropping, raise the angle a couple of degrees, and with your finest stone or ceramic, make a couple of passes. This will leave your polished edge, but return the bite.
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