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Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11466

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I can't seem to figure out how to clamp this knife and ended up tilting the front of the blade up in an effort to get the tip set right. I assume it's something I;m doing and not the factory grind. I'm using a Sharpie and the 1000 grit stone.

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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11467

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I would try bringing it back just a bit? And maybe leveling it out a bit? There are instructions I found very helpful when I first started out under resources.
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11468

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About how much further back?

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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11472

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Try maybe 1/4 to 1/2" and try it. Once you are getting the sharpie off to the edge you are good.
Some kinves you just need to play with a bit.

I think the angle may be OK..but you can tweak that too. Just record everything once you get it right as much as possible so you can touch it up more easily when you need to.

Also, keep in mind, you do not have to precisely duplicate the factory grind..
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11473

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Also, unless I'm not awake yet... tilting it up is the wrong direction to go to correct this.
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11475

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I think you must be awake..
But, how many variables do we ask him to juggle at once?
I typically try to have the spine of the knife contact both pins on the depth gauge and adjust the lenght for proper coverage of the tip. This is more for repeatability than anything. There are some knives that this just doesn't work out on.
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11476

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PhilipPasteur wrote:
But, how many variables do we ask him to juggle at once?

Indeed. When I first read this topic, my reaction was: nothing. I just didn't post it.

My intuition as well says to move the blade back a little and tilt it up a little. However, that's just to minimize angle changes over the entire bevel. That's not something you (should) worry about on your first few knives.

You clamped it in using tape, even protected the pivot with tape. The knife should come out fine and very sharp.
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11477

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Thanks for the replys. I will level the knife out and move it back some more to get the tip right. I agree with the repeatability comment and if the bevel changes slightly I'm not going to worry about it too much. Some things you just have to accept I guess. I'm going to order the Pro Pack II arms this week though as the thought of the angles not being identical is just about enough to put me over the edge.:blink:
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11479

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Another budding OCD sharpener... a man after my own heart!
:)

I think that the ball joint arms are a worthy upgrade. This is both due to the ball joints and the slightly larger diameter rods. Having said that, the original style joints, especially with the way WEPS is sending them out now with the tolerances tightened, are actually very good. There are a bunch of us that used nothing else for quite some time and got rather amazing results.

My thought is that neither the joints nor the rods caused the imbalance that you saw. This can be caused by several things which have been discussed here previously.

My point is that even with getting the upgrade, you need to pay attention to knife mounting, angle setting, and working both sides equally. If not, you will likely see the sort of results that you saw... and did not like.

So I say ... get the new arms and ball joints... just don't think they are a substitue for the prerequisites...
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Re: Spyderco Southard - What am I doing wrong? 1 year 4 months ago #11480

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I ended up getting a pretty decent edge on this knife. I could have stropped it more but it's OK for now. I will definitely be ordering the new arms as I can't get the degrees down enough on this particular blade and I'm sure I will find that out on other knives somewhere down the road.

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