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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3515

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razoredgeknives wrote:
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dan, what do you do w/ the VCI paper... just wrap your stones in them for a time or two for the molecular change to adhere to the surface of the metal?

you can certainly do that,.. or I think many vendors sell the VCI in a spray that you can apply directly. That might work better for you in this application. It is all cheap enough stuff to give various approaches a try.
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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3516

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StevenPinson wrote:
I would just clean them with a little 91% ISO Alcohol and throw them in a box with a desiccant pack.

But, anyway, not trying to out chemistry you here ;) , but the problem with that is that water is 100% soluble in alcohols (well except polyvinylalcohol anyhow..) It is also hydroscopic as hell so it just sucks water out of the air. That is why the bottle you have of the ISO you mention is labeled as 91%. It is 91% alcohol and 8% water. The alcohol has a very high vapor pressure but the water does not, so after a short time guess what? The Alcohol is long gone but the water remains. You only get 100% under lab conditions, and then only for a short time..

Anyway the VCI is going to a be a great fix for the issue especially if the storage periods are long and unsupervised. Say for instance, you pack away you WEP kit for a while, take a vacation, Winter over in Mexico, like it so much you hang out for a month or two longer than you planned. During that time your kit is sitting in you garage workroom where the RH is 100% during the season.. The VCI prevents the nasty that might be, otherwise, waiting for you upon your return !
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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3518

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BassLakeDan wrote:
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So what is the iron in here? ...

yes the steel is from the debris of sharpening but also,the base material of the diamond plates is steel, all of which is an alloy of iron ;) .

Have you got any idea what the base of the diamond plates is made of? I usually use a liberal amount of water to clean them, but that might not be the best idea...

And regarding the iron from te sharpening debris, wouldn't it be better to let it rust away? The debris just fills the space between the diamonds, which makes the plates less effective, I'd guess.
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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3527

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What do you think about using a product such as Balistol which emulsifies with water and has multiple sportsman applications? I have not yet tried it. I was looking for a chemistry lesson on this before I try it. I use it on firearms as a solvent/lubricant. The Ballistol odor may result in the user being exiled from the house to the garage as it smells like dirty socks.

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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3529

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mark76 wrote:
Have you got any idea what the base of the diamond plates is made of? I usually use a liberal amount of water to clean them, but that might not be the best idea...

The base material nickel plated steel. I also use water to wash the stones and haven't had any issues w/ rust but I live in a VERY dry place. With all the pushing and shoving of the diamonds into the base plate, it wouldn't be surprising to have the diamonds puncture through the plating. I imagine that moisture can get into any imperfection in the nickel plating and rust the steel underneath.
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Re: Oil on stock diamond stones... your thoughts? 1 year 9 months ago #3533

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mark76 wrote:
... wouldn't it be better to let it rust away? The debris just fills the space between the diamonds, which makes the plates less effective, I'd guess.

You might be on to something there, that is an unconventional but very interesting idea. I once made a post in another topic thread about the possibility of cleaning ceramic stones with acids, which is the same methodology, whereby you use reduction chemistry to your favor ( eat the 'bad stuff' and leave the good :sick: ) . Such an approach is safe with ceramics but there is danger here with the steel base.
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