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Re: Shapton vs. Chosera WEPS Stones - The Great Debate 2 years 6 months ago #1643

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Hi all,

I have only discovered this thread just now, 3 months after the last post :lol:

How do you guys get your Shapton paddles made? I read about getting blank paddles from WE and then sending them to CKTG who will mount the stones. But I find nothing about this on the CKTG site and also nothing about blank paddles on the WE site.
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I did a microscope progression with the WEPS diamonds, then the WEPS ceramic 1200/1600 and jumped to the Chosera 5K, which I'm writing up on my blog (hopefully it will be ready in a couple of days..)

This is what I had been thinking about for some time, since I have the 100/200, 400/600 and 800/1000 diamond stones, as well as the 1200/1600 ceramic stones. What would be the best (and efficient) Chosera stone to continue with? 5K or lower? (Couldn't find that on your blog, Tom.) And what would be the best Shapton stone to continue with after my full sequence with the WE stones? 5K as well, as suggested by the grit comparison chart?

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Re: Shapton vs. Chosera WEPS Stones - The Great Debate 2 years 6 months ago #1683

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This is what I had been thinking about for some time, since I have the 100/200, 400/600 and 800/1000 diamond stones, as well as the 1200/1600 ceramic stones. What would be the best (and efficient) Chosera stone to continue with? 5K or lower? (Couldn't find that on your blog, Tom.) And what would be the best Shapton stone to continue with after my full sequence with the WE stones? 5K as well, as suggested by the grit comparison chart?

Yeah, the Blog didn't go into progressions past the stock diamond paddles. Perhaps it's time to write that up...

Since you have the 800/1K and 1200/1600 paddles, The next step would be the 5K Shapton or arguably the 8K, if you go by the micron chart. While you can get very clean edges from the 800/1K diamonds and the 1200/1600 Ceramics before going directly to the 5K Shapton, I am a little biased when it comes to that :)

I (personally) strongly recommend the 2K Shapton or even the 3K Chosera to proceed the 5K Shapton Pro in almost all situations, despite the "step back" in micron size. This is because of the "critical leap" that is unique to the 5K Shapton.

It is less of a deal to go directly to the 5K Chosera since it still actively abrades more and can be manipulated with slurry to make it more aggressive - IOW, the 5K Chosera is a cleanup stone. But the Shapton 5K is completely different - it only polishes, it doesn't function as a cleanup stone. The cleanup on the Shaptons is done on the 1500-2K range (you can use the 3K Chosera before the 5K Shapton, too).

At this point, we venture into the subtle, yet tangible differences between the edges produced by the various mediums available. Diamonds generally leave a more toothy edge, the Choseras a little more polished and smoother, and the Shaptons edges have grip and control. When we go to this area of the discussion, it's no longer about the micron size.
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Re: Shapton vs. Chosera WEPS Stones - The Great Debate 2 years 6 months ago #1689

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Thanks a lot, Tom! Any idea where to get Shapton stones mounted on paddles from?
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Hey Mark - I sent you a PM. B)
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mark76 wrote:
Thanks a lot, Tom! Any idea where to get Shapton stones mounted on paddles from?

Good News!!!!

The Shaptons are finally up on the WEPS site - just go to the products tab above in the menu bar and click on accessory stones!

Now the discussions can really begin! I've been talking to myself too long :silly:
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Congratulations, Tom! That is a great set of additions to the line!

I have just ordered some Chosera's, but in the past months my motto seems to have become "if it can get sharper, it should get sharper". So I fear I won't be able to withstand the force soon...
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