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Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10851

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All,

I have read through many posts on the forum concerning Chosera Stones and have found some pertinent information as to what I am looking for but if one had a goal of producing a mirror edge while balancing cost of stones with a limitation of purchasing only two sets of Chosera Stones (to reduce costs), what grit stones would you recommend considering I have the PPII and both sets of ceramic stones. Any and all feedback welcome, but would love to hear from Clay, Ken, Philp and Tom and anyone else with experience with the Chosera stones.

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Mark
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10852

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Hi Mark,
About two months ago I asked kind of the same question? I put up a thread chosera vs ceramics? After reading a lot of input I called Bob Nash (Oldawan Tools) whom I bought the WEPS Pro pack from. He suggested a custom package for me and I bought them. It is one paddle with a 1K and 2k Chosera and a second paddle with 3k and 5k chosera.
I'm the chief bottle washer at a public shooting range and just about everyone I know has a EDC. So I'm getting the opportunity to work on a lot of different knifes? The most popular comment when I'm done with the 5k is "it looks like chrome".
Now if you put the blade under 40x magnification You can see some faint remains of scratches. I have yet after a lot of strokes (hours) eliminate all of the scratches. But bottom line those that don't know to the difference a seriously impressed with the chrome looking finish!
Choseras have a problem in that they are messy compared to the ceramics or diamonds cause they need to be wet to use. But(I bought the ceramics just cause) they in my opinion are way better at cutting and finish.
If you decide to go through with this adventure I would highly recommend you call Bob Nash at(505)570 2040 Good luck to you! I'm having a blast with them them!
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result?
An old Irish toast, May the wind always be at your back, may you always have work and may you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows your dead. Cheers!
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10854

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Earnon,

Thank you very much for your reply and information. Sounds like you are getting plenty of experience with your new stones!
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10856

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MarkMassie wrote:
Sounds like you are getting plenty of experience with your new stones!

Your welcome! I hope it helps the decision? Yeah about three to four knifes a day seems to be my average?
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result?
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10857

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Even at 10,000, under 40x you'll be able to see the lines. But to the naked eye, it's a mirror

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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10864

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Hey Mark,

(Since you have the ceramics) I would strongly suggest the 800/1k set. If you do a good job with 1k diamonds and even add the ceramics the 800 will pick up nicely. You get a mirror finish with the 1k Chosera. (some stropping may be needed to bring the shine out, but 1k leaves it super smooth). I often stop at 1k, stop with 5/3.5 and done. To go higher is really just chasing perfection in my opinion. I do chase perfection sometimes on special occasion knives. But for knives I actually use 1k Chosera is enough. With light pressure the 1k is near or at perfection with the naked eye. Like Ken said I can see scratch after 10k with a loupe. They are just a little smaller and farther apart. The 1k is my favorite stone, the feel and feedback is just awesome.

If you didn't have ceramics and sharpened more for EDC use I might say get the 400/600's.

If you get 2 sets, the get 400/600 and 800/1k. The 400/600 really cut well and I don't think you get as much out of 2k/3k as the 400/600's. If you get custom made paddles I would suggest a 1k for sure then get the other stones spaced around 1k skipping a grit of so. I.e. 400,600, 1k, 3k. or 600,1k, 3k, 5k.

Also I think 800/1k are good for touch ups if you don't severely dull the knife.
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10865

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Thank you all for your time and responses!

Mark
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10866

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Hi Mark!

There are some excellent recommendations so far. B)

I'd stick with the diamond stocks up to 600 or 1K, then switch over to a Chosera 800/2K or 3K combo, and a 5K/10K.

Depending on the steel, you should be able to get a slight mirror out of the 2K Chosera, and a better one out of the 3K. But more importantly, the Chosera 800 will get things nice and clean form the diamond scratches, and the 2K or 3K will put an excellent working edge. The 2K stone has a little give to it, it will take care of those more abrasion resistant stones with less hassle. The 3K is a little harder, and will give a little more precision out of it (I'm talking differences between OCD levels, here - you won't go wrong with either).

Another option is the 1K/5K, which is more no-nonsense (but less OCD friendly :blink: ). It will require a little more effort when switching from the stock diamonds, and when finishing on the 5K (just a couple more minutes, really). I wouldn't recommend a 800/5K, although you could if you really wanted to.

The real shine happens off the 10K, IMO. I find the 5K Chosera to aesthetically be a little "scratchy" on the surface for my personal tastes.

I hope this helps! BTW, Bob is a great guy, and won't steer you wrong.
Tom Blodgett
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10871

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Mark,
Tom knows these stones, I am not sure that you will find much better advice. Geo has been using the stones for awhile and seems to have come to the same conclusions that I have. Eamon made his decision and seems to be happy with his set. My personal experience tells me that, If I had to have just 4 grits, it would have to be the 800/1000 and the 3K/5K (though the 2K/5K would be be almost indistinguishable for most sharpeners).
If you can do it, even if it takes a while, I would try to get the whole set. I use the 400/600 set quite a bit. I also use my 10K on around 25% of the knives that I sharpen. It took me at least a year to buy the entire progression, but I am happy that I did. If you plan to do that, I would consider buying them mounted the way that clay sells them. This follows the logical progression through the grits and results in fewer paddle changes.

BTW the "Chosera 800/2K or 3K combo, and a 5K/10K" sounds intriguing, but I really like the 1K stone...
It would give you the best polish on the top end though... and keep your two polishers on the same handle.

Decisions, decisions...:ohmy:
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 5 months ago #10874

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Tom and Philip thanks for your input and recommendations. Also, thanks again to everywone for your time and recommendations. I ordered an 800/3000 and 5000/10000. I am sure I will like the results and if so, over time I can add additional combination of grits in the stones to fill the gaps.

Thanks you!

Mark
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