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A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5084

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Hi,
I didn't see anything like this anywhere...so here goes. (I just guessed ata category)
I've got 3 different companies knives, all claiming to be VG-10 at the edge. In profile, they are all kitchen knives, Shun, Calphalon (sp?) and one from AG Russell.
Interestingly enough, I sharpen them all the same, and they retain the edge COMPLETELY differently.
So my question (I think) is there wide variance in VG-10 steel, like you'd find in say 1095?
Call me curious.
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Re: A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5087

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FredHermann wrote:
Hi,..Call me curious.

Oh, man,.. you are prying open the lid on pandoras' box.. last time I got near this subject the topic ran on for days.. see: "question with a sebenza.."

Although there are many knowledgable "steel junkies" that hang around this forum, i would suggest you also cross post your above "curious" to Cliff at: the towards .1 micron Forum..
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Re: A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5090

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FredHermann wrote:
Hi,
I didn't see anything like this anywhere...so here goes. (I just guessed ata category)
I've got 3 different companies knives, all claiming to be VG-10 at the edge. In profile, they are all kitchen knives, Shun, Calphalon (sp?) and one from AG Russell.
Interestingly enough, I sharpen them all the same, and they retain the edge COMPLETELY differently.
So my question (I think) is there wide variance in VG-10 steel, like you'd find in say 1095?
Call me curious.

The heat treat can make a huge difference.

So yes, VG-10 from different companies can vary a lot.
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Re: A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5122

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Cephalon Katana series is VG1 not VG10.
And like others said the heat treat makes a huge difference in the performance of the metal.
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Re: A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5123

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All of them say they are RC 61-63, but wow are they different.
But thanks, it's good to have you confirm my suspicions.
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Re: A question about VG-10 Steel 1 year 11 months ago #5147

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Every VG-10 I do is a new experience.
Caphalon's VG-1 not so happy with. Very bad choice for things that touch water.
No matter how many times I tell clients "hand wash right after use, hand dry, put away" ....
Loop them and you'll see pitting and chipping, especially if they are not taken care of.
Have seen similar pitting though not as bad on Shun VG-10s.
Also, the acute angle of Shuns, IMHO, VG-10 not a great choice for it. Like I've said before got to be delicate with them, chippy, and don't dare drop them on a ceramic floor :)
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