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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16931

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Sounds like you had a great day, Gib!

Like some others I have soms questions about the burr removal between stones. Why is this, because the first thing you do - I think - when switching to a finer grits stone is to remove the burr from the previous stone. At least with proper technique.

Leo, what is the three finger technique you talk about? I'd never heard about it.
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16933

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LeoBarr wrote:
Very interesting .

It sounds as if it was a rewarding day .

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It was everything I'd hoped for and more.

Albert said all along that he's teaching what he'd been taught tempered by his years of experience; someone else will have their own way.

Fascinating how important the burr is and after all these millennia of humankind sharpening blades of all kinds, there is still debate.
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16936

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Here is a link to Murray Carters video explaining the three finger test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k1o70tMHYM
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16938

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Ah, that! Thanks! Interesting guy, btw, Murray Carter.
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16947

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LeoBarr wrote:
.....Here is a link to Murray Carters video explaining the three finger test

Leo Nav

Albert explained it and was doing this all day.

Knowing how sharp the blades were made me a little nervous and appropriately cautious.
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16948

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GibCurry wrote:
LeoBarr wrote:
.....Here is a link to Murray Carters video explaining the three finger test

Leo Nav

little nervous and appropriately cautious.

That is actually the whole key as to why it works so well. This test and the "pinch test" are key especially on the bench stones. These are the basics we have been talking about they happen first and then three finger throughout the process. ;)
I have had the pleasure of talking with Murray a few times, he is actually a pretty witty guy! :lol:
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16960

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mark76 wrote:
Sounds like you had a great day, Gib!

It was a good day. Any day sharpening for that long is .... tiring.... but, still, a very, very good day.

The basic notes were simple to outline. The practice is ongoing.

I was a bit nervous to have someone I know is really good, not just watching, but watching almost microscopically. And, with the purpose to see and correct mistakes. But, more, to see and enhance proper technique and understanding.

I'm hoping to get to spend as much time as I can with sharpeners better than I.

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Speaking of which, I'm looking forward to meeting Bob Nash in Eugene at the Oregon Knife Show (www.oregonknifeclub.org/Flyer%202014_03.png).

Anyone else from this Forum going to be there? Or the Seattle show a couple of weeks later?
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Re:Re: Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16978

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cbwx34 wrote:
Sounds interesting!
GibCurry wrote:
He likes to strop between each grit level. So, we typically did 10 strokes per side, then 8 strokes per side, then 5 strokes, then 2 strokes and then 1 stroke per side for 5 strokes, then strop. Inspect, repeat as necessary before moving on to net grit or next blade issue.

He give any reason for stropping between each grit level? A bit counterintuitive to me.

Thanks for posting this Gib! Sounds like you had a great time! :-)

I would tend to agree Curtis... In fact, I think the optimal way to remove the burr would be with the stones themselves. If you develop a burr and then keep bending it back and forth until it breaks surely this won't be as sharp as one finished on a stone.

I try to "cut" my burr off with each grit stone before moving to the next step... I do this with edge leading passes and it works great, especially at the lower grits. I do find that keep chasing it once I get up to the 800-1k range, and it's annoying!

I just don't like to strop much because it makes my nice toothy edge not so toothy anymore :-(

So Gib, how in the world did you get this arranged?! :-)

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Re:Re: Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #16979

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Hey Gib,

Thanks for the post. I think all of your points apply equally as well to the WEPS. The WEPS just makes the keeping a constant angle part easy. All the rest still requires attention to detail.
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Sharpening Intensive... 3 months 3 weeks ago #17001

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"If you do the three finger test on every single blade that comes into your hands you will intuitively know ...."

You better not try the three finger test on my straight razors Murry, or you'll be changing out of your bathrobe to go get some liquid skin at Walgreens.
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