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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13162

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chipped blade i need to repair.

please take a look and comment on repairs.

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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13163

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Wow! what in the world happened to that thing?!

If I didn't take it to the belt sander (which I would, lol) I would take the 100g diamond stone (or a file) and run it perpendicular to the edge (90 degrees) and grind the entire edge flat. Then I would sharpen. This will leave you with an even (non wavy) edge. Just my .02 =)
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13165

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I would love to know how they did that was it used in a jail break or as a long flat head screw driver ! I cannot imagine that was done on food .
Razor edge has the solution if you grind out the damage flat it will be less metal to remove and then sharpen from scratch I think I would put the knife on the belt length ways since the blade is thin where the scallops are and it will be easier to keep the blade geometry.
Since I don't have a belt grinder I would do it the same way on my Tormek but I seem to recall that you do.
It is going to take quite a bit to sort it out especially since the handle is the depth of the blade so I would imagine you will have two options take the blade up above the handle leaving a step down to the handle then go parallel with the spine which is probable the way to remove the least amount of metal . I think it will end up been a ham slicer.
That is unless they use it as a flat head screw driver again.
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13174

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IMHO, pretty much shot.
What makes it worse is the scallops, once ground down you'll be well into them.
Plus, like Leo said, you'll be above the handle.... unless you slope it up.

If they insisted, I would do like RE suggests ... put it to a belt sander at 90 till you have and even edge.
Than depending on the knife thickness, may need to thin the knife a bit.
Then put a new edge on it.
It'll work, but it'll be in the scallops.

Time vs $ vs worth of knife.
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13176

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And will it be used as a screw driver or bottle opener again perhaps you should charge a bit extra and return it with a bottle opener and a screw driver & perhaps a wrecking bar just to protect their investment.
The scallops could be really fragile lets hope that the knife is normally treated well I think the damage was probable the result of a kids BBQ.
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13177

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I would definitely keep the before and after pics for your portfolio! Lol, then put it on your table at the farmers market in a "portfolio book" so people can see your work :-)
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I agree with Zig. It is likely not worth fixing. Those knives are $60 to $70 . I would charge at least half of that to fix (and lose money on the deal because it would take too long and wear too many belts, even at that), and the knife will never perform as designed after the fix. You will end up with varying thickness behind the edge because of the scallops, and likely mess up the temper while taking that much metal off..

Zig said:
Time vs $ vs worth of knife.

I think you can't make the equation work on this one!

If you just want to do it for the experience... well, have fun.
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13189

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I completely agree with Philip Pasteur I have turned down the repair of one knife and they ended up giving it to me . It was a Mac Santoku which I posted pictures of a while back it took around 4 hours to sort which would have been way over the value of the knife but the result was good.
Tuffy's knife would certainly take a lot of work and it looks like it is quite a thin knife which means the scallops will be a concern .
As an exercise should they let you keep it to dispose of then it may be interesting .
The chief concern it the bolster I think that area would have to be initiated perpendicular to the belt then the scallops could well be a problem if they are not then the rest of the knife would be done in line with the belt.
It may well take your finger tips away working on this one .
I think the reality is bin it.
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i like to ask and get opinions - here is another 1 year 2 weeks ago #13194

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We haven't heard back from Tuffy (lol) yet, but I completely disagree w/ Zig and Philip... unless you guys are referring to doing it all by hand w/ the WEPS (in that case I would agree). I think it is not only worth saving, but it wouldn't be that difficult if you take it to your HF 1x30 belt sander for the roughing in. Will your edge be into the scallops and you have different thicknesses behind the edge? Sure... but it should still perform fine, after all, its not like they're a professional chef (obviously).

If it were me, I would take your blade and put your edge 90 degrees to the belt. I would do it so that the tip to knife butt is parallel with the belt itself and grind the edge down to remove the chips, which would include the "return" and maintain the blade geometry (which actually isn't that important in this knife from what it looks like, since its not a chopper). It would take probably 5-10 minutes on a belt sander.

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Reason I'm saying that is because I would charge $12 for the blade edge if just a sharpening.
Grinding down, maybe thinning, new profile + $15 min.
They are in for $27 min on a blade that may (one would need to see it) be real thin in the scallops.
If they did that to it, God forbid they hit the bone in a ham and twist it.

Victorinox makes a decent one for $41 in their Forschner line. Another $14 and they are in for the win :)
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