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Re: How much is enough 3 years 2 weeks ago #235

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How true Tom. That is why I use the term brush with the strops...a light brushing stroke is all you need after progressing through all the stones on the WEPS. That edge is so well defined only light whispers of leather against the steel are required to pop that edge to the max.

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Excellent info so far! B)

IMO, It's super easy to roll an edge with stropping, and it's mainly due to pressure. As the edge becomes more refined, it becomes thinner, much like peeling away the layers of an onion. The edge of the edge is fragile and is easily prone to being flexed when lateral forces are applied, even if it should readily spring back into position.

Geometry plays a role in the strength of the edge, but ultimately, you still want the edge to be thin enough to cut effortlessly.

As mentioned previously, the steel's qualities will also play a role in how much pressure an edge can take before becoming fatigued or rolled.

To add one more thing, by the time you get the the strops on the WEPS, you should have one seriously well defined and sharpened edge, so you won't need to add much pressure at all - especially if you take the time at the finer WEPS stones/plates (or Choseras and Shaptons ;)
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Re: How much is enough 3 years 2 weeks ago #241

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leomitch wrote:
Hi again Lucky
I can only speak for myself, but I have found that I don't count strokes...

I need to stop counting strokes, but I seem to be stuck in it on the WEPS. Once I hit a cadence, for me its like doing CPR (1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and...) :cheer:

I count on one side only.
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What should it sound like? 2 years 9 months ago #1082

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After reading a bit here, one of the points made was listening to the sound the strop makes to know if it's working or needs reloaded.
But I don't know what it should sound like. Should it always be slippery with compound? Should it seem dry and squeek like super-clean glass? Does it sound like a whisper?
Enquiring minds want to know...
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Re: What should it sound like? 2 years 9 months ago #1083

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After using them for a while, I would say the strops only get good when they are not slippery at all.

Let them get dry, crusty and black. Use them far, far longer than you think you should, and then they are starting to get good in my experience.

I know it sounds counterintuitive, but give it a try.

As for sound - I would not go by it at all - I have no idea what they should "sound like".
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Re: What should it sound like? 2 years 9 months ago #1084

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Hmm! How shall I describe it...dry, slightly gritty ssshhhh sound,I don't know if I can define it any better than that. It is, to my ears anyway,clear as a bell when you get it just right. No. not slippery! This is most clear when stropping on a leather/wooden paddle, not so much on the WEPS strops.
I am talking here about stropping with green,gold,red or black compound. Diamond paste or spray does not have a distinctive sound to my half-deaf ears.
Clear as mud eh!

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Re: How much is enough 2 years 9 months ago #1087

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I would describe it like a hiss of a snake. When the strops are wet with diamond paste, you dont get much stropping because the strops are kind of "ice skating" on the blade. Let the paste soak in for a good while, work it in real good, and for the first few knives, after a few strokes, clean the paste that leaks off the strop off of the blade, until the strops leave no more paste on the blade. NOW you will be getting results, as the diamond paste impregnated in the leather is sliding on the metal, abrading it, and not the leather sliding on a protective layer of paste. You should see no paste on the bevel.
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