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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18452

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Hi guys,

I'm about to receive my WE any day now and I am keen to give my Spyderco a proper edge.

It's the Endura 4 with VG10 steel.

I use it to skin rabbits, prepare game birds etc and sometime fresh water fish like trout.

I would like some advise if possible please as to what edge would be best suited for the task at above. I would like it to be obviously very very sharp with a long lasting edge if possible?

What would you more experienced guys advise me to do and how to go about it?

Many thanks

Steve
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18453

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Did you buy the basic kit up to 600 grit or one of the Pro Packs? A "broken in" 600 grit edge is excellent.
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18456

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Hi there,

I bought the pro pack one, this comes with the 800/1000 grit stones, I also bought the ultra fine ceramic stone pack also which consists of the 1200/1600 grit stones also ;)

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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18457

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My advice would be to find some cheaper knives to practice with and to break your stones in some before tackling your EDC. I have done about 40-50 knives with the WEPS, and I'm far, far more pleased and impressed with the performance of the diamonds than I was in the first 5-10 knives. The edges are much, much smoother and keener now after a bit of break in. IMO so far, the best general EDC edge is between 600-1000 grit though I regularly carry a knife every now and then that's finished to 0.5 micron CBN. The great thing is that you have enough tools at your disposal now to try out different edges for what works best for you. If a mirrored 3.5 micron edge doesn't work well for you, then back off to a lower grit and work from there. You'll eventually find your sweet spot.
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18458

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uofaengr wrote:
My advice would be to find some cheaper knives to practice with and to break your stones in some before tackling your EDC. I have done about 40-50 knives with the WEPS, and I'm far, far more pleased and impressed with the performance of the diamonds than I was in the first 5-10 knives. The edges are much, much smoother and keener now after a bit of break in. IMO so far, the best general EDC edge is between 600-1000 grit though I regularly carry a knife every now and then that's finished to 0.5 micron CBN. The great thing is that you have enough tools at your disposal now to try out different edges for what works best for you. If a mirrored 3.5 micron edge doesn't work well for you, then back off to a lower grit and work from there. You'll eventually find your sweet spot.

Thanks for your help and advise my friend. What I'm worried of a bit, is if I have an ultra sharp knife, will,the edge still last a good while as if I didn't give it such a good edge?
Steve
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18465

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247sniper wrote:
Thanks for your help and advise my friend. What I'm worried of a bit, is if I have an ultra sharp knife, will,the edge still last a good while as if I didn't give it such a good edge?
Steve

That's a curious thought... I know this is something that seems to be a thought on several of the forums, but I don't know if it is founded on proven evidence. I believe you need to focus on whether you want an edge that push cuts or slices, these are two different things all together. IMHO, what you described would call for a toothy edge... a highly polished push-cutting edge is limited to certain (few) uses...
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18469

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razoredgeknives wrote:
247sniper wrote:
Thanks for your help and advise my friend. What I'm worried of a bit, is if I have an ultra sharp knife, will,the edge still last a good while as if I didn't give it such a good edge?
Steve

That's a curious thought... I know this is something that seems to be a thought on several of the forums, but I don't know if it is founded on proven evidence. I believe you need to focus on whether you want an edge that push cuts or slices, these are two different things all together. IMHO, what you described would call for a toothy edge... a highly polished push-cutting edge is limited to certain (few) uses...

Thanks for that info mate, that's actually very helpful. What would I get a toothy edge from, the 600 grit stone on the WEP like on your YouTube video?

Thanks again for your help and advise.

Steve
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18470

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247sniper wrote:
razoredgeknives wrote:
247sniper wrote:
Thanks for your help and advise my friend. What I'm worried of a bit, is if I have an ultra sharp knife, will,the edge still last a good while as if I didn't give it such a good edge?
Steve

That's a curious thought... I know this is something that seems to be a thought on several of the forums, but I don't know if it is founded on proven evidence. I believe you need to focus on whether you want an edge that push cuts or slices, these are two different things all together. IMHO, what you described would call for a toothy edge... a highly polished push-cutting edge is limited to certain (few) uses...

Thanks for that info mate, that's actually very helpful. What would I get a toothy edge from, the 600 grit stone on the WEP like on your YouTube video?

Thanks again for your help and advise.

Steve

Yes and no... mine are well worn in, I've probably sharpened over 200 knives on those stones. I started off with loving a 1k edge for toothiness, then down to 800->600->400 as they get broken in. So you could either go higher, as in the 1k range or you could go with 600 and strop. Just make sure to only do around 10 passes with the 5 or even 10-14 um strops after you have lowered your stropping angle by 1-2 degrees. This should produce some extremely sharp edges!
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18471

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247sniper wrote:
Thanks for your help and advise my friend. What I'm worried of a bit, is if I have an ultra sharp knife, will,the edge still last a good while as if I didn't give it such a good edge?
Steve

Interesting question, kind of complex because it also should include the nature of the sharp edge e.g. toothy vs. polished. One thing is certain, force applied to the edge makes the blade dull by deforming the metal at the edge. A dull knife requires more force in order to cut so you're having to apply more force right off the bat with a dull knife. A sharp knife doesn't require as much force so it's protected from being deformed for longer.
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Spyderco Endura 4 advise please. 2 months 1 week ago #18474

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Just make sure to only do around 10 passes with the 5 or even 10-14 um strops after you have lowered your stropping angle by 1-2 degrees. This should produce some extremely sharp edges![/quote]

Thanks again mate, helpful info there.

Could you just explain the top bit again for me, a bit clearer so I understand ya, still learning all this stuff lol :blush:

Cheers

Steve.
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