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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10878

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MarkMassie wrote:
Tom and Philip thanks for your input and recommendations. Also, thanks again to everywone for your time and recommendations. I ordered an 800/3000 and 5000/10000. I am sure I will like the results and if so, over time I can add additional combination of grits in the stones to fill the gaps.

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I'm sure you will be happy with your decision. A couple weeks ago I ran across a few knifes that the diamonds were to much for. They caused small chips along the edge? So I called Bob Nash to order a 600/800 combo. Bob strongly suggested to me that I go with 400/800. This was to offset what I already have? I have not listened to Bob in the past and it has cost me money! So I listened to Bob.
Last night after reading the thread I did a test? I started with my 400 and made a strong burr on both sides of the knife. I then cleaned up the knife with 120 strokes of the 800 and then 120 strokes of the 1000.
Now this is just my opinion and with no offense to anyone! The knife has a really nice shine, But I don't think it is anything that could not be done with the ceramics? I have to agree that the real shine happens after 1000. Now would the average guy with his edc be happy? Absolutely! Again with the but? It seems that you have the bug that we are talking about? I think you will be happy and as time and money come along add to the collection. I have already talked with Bob this morning and am getting the 10,K Just so I can see what everyone is talking about? I bought my collection ass backwards but who was to know I would jump off the deep end? Have fun!
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10880

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Eamon said:
Now this is just my opinion and with no offense to anyone! The knife has a really nice shine, But I don't think it is anything that could not be done with the ceramics?

Of course, no offense taken. Just curious though, have you tried going from the 800 chosera to the 1200/1600 ceramics and directly comparing the results using just the 1K Chosera? They do say that everyone has an opinion on most subjects. I tend to pay more attention to those opinions that are based on good experimental data.

I think that had you done this comparison (which I have done on may occasions...as in a bunch ;) ), you would see some very clear differences. The ceramic stones from WEPS have their place in certain progressions, and I use mine all of the time, but their effect on steel is quite different.. It simply is not possible to get the same effect with the ceramics as with the Chosera stones.

I would buy that you can get equivalent levels of sharpness, or maybe suitability for some cutting task... but not overall finish and scratch patterns!

Just my opinion...


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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10881

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PhilipPasteur wrote:
Eamon said:
Now this is just my opinion and with no offense to anyone! The knife has a really nice shine, But I don't think it is anything that could not be done with the ceramics?

Of course, no offense taken. Just curious though, have you tried going from the 800 chosera to the 1200/1600 ceramics and directly comparing the results using just the 1K Chosera? They do say that everyone has an opinion on most subjects. I tend to pay more attention to those opinions that are based on good experimental data.

Phil,
Very cool test! I never even thought of going chosera then ceramics? My test was based on 1k diamonds onto 12/16k ceramics. I will be looking for something fun to do today and will get back to you with my opinion?
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10883

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PhilipPasteur wrote:

Just my opinion...

.... and mine ;)

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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10884

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KenBuzbee wrote:
PhilipPasteur wrote:

Just my opinion...

.... and mine ;)

Ken

.... and mine too :P
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10885

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This is the beauty of having a variety of accessory stones available for the WEPS! The bottom line is that while all the equipment works, they all work differently (with some arguably "better" than others), and that is the fun part.

It won't be long before many of us from this thread are found naked, rocking in the corner of a room, mumbling something about ceramics and Choseras while sucking our thumbs because went crazy from the possibilities while trying to figure out the best progression to use for a particular knife...

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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10887

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That's right. With the WEPS there is more than one way to sharpen a knife. I take some to 1k chosera, some to 5k, some to 10k some just ceramics only. So I have a lot of flexility.

The other thing to remember with only getting one or two sets of Choseras is you can always add more later.
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10888

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jendeindustries wrote:
It won't be long before many of us from this thread are found naked, rocking in the corner of a room, mumbling something about ceramics and Choseras while sucking our thumbs because went crazy from the possibilities while trying to figure out the best progression to use for a particular knife...:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

So.... YOU think that day is off in the FUTURE somewhere? ;) Hmmm... Interesting...

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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10890

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Having problems with the space bar... thumb is too slippery ... I am cold too...the dogs don't like me anymore...
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Re: Chosera Stones 1 year 3 months ago #10892

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And oddly enough? Just noticed the room I'm in seems to have some sort of rubber material on the walls?
The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result?
An old Irish toast, May the wind always be at your back, may you always have work and may you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows your dead. Cheers!
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